SUMMARY: Although the podcast starts off a little goofy, Phil Vischer, Skye Jethani and Kaitlyn Schiess discuss the wholesale rejection of critical race theory in a meeting between six southern Baptist presidents. We recommend you skip to 43:19 where the interview with David Fitch begins. He maintains that critical race theory, and all critical theories for that matter, are good diagnostic tools, but they must not be divorced from a Christian view of justice. The interview provides a succinct, nuanced history of critical theory that does not throw the baby out with the bath water.
KEY QUOTE: “All these critical theorists would agree that (CRT) is not a basis for building a theory of justice…All critical theory is more diagnostic then it is basing a substantive theory of justice on…At their best, these cultural theorists teach us how to ask good questions, make astute observations, locate voices (where) it can open space for the work of God in Christ to reconcile, heal, make bodies whole, (and) put into place various reactions and other formations… In other words, critical race theory is a useful tool for understanding what is going on in society, but it falls short of an actual framework for justice itself.”
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Big Brown Army host DeCruz and critical race theory expert Bradly Mason have an in-depth conversation where DeCruz asks several honest, poignant questions about CRT. Mason has clearly done a lot of research on CRT and we appreciated his nuanced answers. We particularly liked when he pointed out that as Christians we don’t have to accept or reject CRT part and parcel as we rarely do that with other issues. We also liked that he recognizes that before starting a conversation terms must be defined because the uses and definitions of certain terms can be very different to another individual.Read more
Christian apologist Neil Shenvi and pastor of The Bridge Church (Brooklyn, NY) Rasool Berry debate the many definitions of critical race theory – what it is, what it isn’t, the nuances, and the sticking points. Shenvi and Berry role model what is it like to have a conversation with a fellow Christian, but disagree about aspects of a certain subject. Skip to 2:45 to get to the interview.Read more
In a vulnerable and nuanced discussion about CRT, politics, and the church, host Preston Sprinkle and Dr. Ed Uszynski discuss finding the “transcendent middle.” They also identify that the Christian approach to critical race theory (CRT) is often met with a lack of empathy and theological understanding of justice . Skip to the nine-minute mark to get to the meat of the interview.Read more